Stranger:This Sherlock shit is getting fucking old.
You:Hoped he'd be on here. -SH
You:NEVER GET OLD
Stranger:It got old.
Stranger:About 20 years ago it was old.
You:lol that was one stupid typo
You:Sherlockians were the first fandom to really mobilize, and that was about 100 years ago.
You:Our dedication to one series, one character, changed the world.
You:Changed the way society operated.
Stranger:This whole thing that just happened to pop up around now, after a century.
You:And made forensic science a legitimate field.
Stranger:Half the people who go on about it now won't even have read the stories!
You:No, now is just when it has been called to the public's attention due to the Guy Richie and BBC adaptations being aired.
You:Does that matter? We love the characters and what they stand for!
Stranger:In all fairness, the modern adaptations are nothing compared to the stories.
You:Who cares which director/author wrote about them- as long as Holmes and Watson are in there!
You:Maybe they aren't your thing, but I for one have been inspired because of the modern adaptations.
Stranger:They're good to watch.
Stranger:I'll agree with that.
Stranger:But to me, they're barely representitive of the originals.
You:That's why I like them. They're original and stand on their own. If I wanted the ACD version, I'd just read the books.
You:I want a 21st Century perspective on his characters.
Stranger:I honestly don't think it was a perspective on his characters.
Stranger:Sherlock could barely function unless he was coced off his tits or properly motivated.
You:...Frankly, I'm not sure what you mean by that. Can you elaborate?
Stranger:In the stories it was rare for him not to take it, it was pretty much down to Watson every time to motivate him to take a case.
Stranger:He was an addict.
You:Yea, he was. That's why Watson's so important.
Stranger:In the film they made him a drunk.
Stranger:The first new one.
You:Guy Ritchie? Yea, I suppose.
Stranger:Nah, with Downey.
You:I don't personally have anything against that lifestyle as long as it doesn;t bring harm to others.
Stranger:Drugs are probably too taboo for the modern age.
Stranger:So they changed it.
Stranger:That's why I don't like the modern stuff.
You:Yes and it was directed by Guy Ritchie.
Stranger:I don't do directors.
You:I prefer modern; I can relate more.
Stranger:The whole cocaine thing was kind of a major part of his character.
You:Of course, I like the nostalgia of the Victorian era too.
Stranger:It didn't piss me off as much and the Dorian Gray film though, that really annoyed me. So i'll give it that.
You:Yea, it was. I kinda wish directors made more of a point on that. But they have to have some propriety if they want any viewers.
You:That's why I liked the subtle hints at his addiction in BBC's Sherlock.
Stranger:I didn't see the BBC one, to be honest. I usually just watch the really old tv ones that are on at ridiculous o'clock in the morning.
Stranger:It's like BBC4 or something.
You:If you can, you should try to watch the BBC version. Of course, you've probably heard that before...
Stranger:I may give it a look.
Stranger:I just think the modern era tries to put too much action into things.
You:Yea, the RDJ version had a lot of action, and it came off as a Bond-esq film. The BBC version was much more focused on the detective work. (I'm just personally in love with the BBC version, so if I talk about that one a lot, please forgive me.)
You:So do you still think Sherlock's getting old?
Stranger:I wouldn't say old.
You:Because you seem rather well informed about the fandom.
Stranger:I just don't really like the fact that people are jumping on the bandwagon because there's been a tv series about it.
Stranger:Or a film.
You:You sound like a hipster (which isn't meant to be insulting, I swear.)
You:...I can understand that feeling.
Stranger:I'm not, it's just...there were novels before it. Surely to be a fan of something you should understand the original?
Stranger:It's like kids who are obsessed with harry potter becuase of the films.
Stranger:But they never read the books.
You:I try to simply separate the two versions.
You:But I like the fact that films such as Harry Potter and Sherlock Holmes and even Lord of the Rings brought more fans in.
You:That was the point of the movies.
Stranger:Honestly, I think lord of the rings brought more justice to the books than any of the others.
Stranger:And it missed loads out.
You:And for all of those fandoms, I've watched the films before reading the books. But I'm no less of a fan than some one who read the books first.
You:(I agree with you on LotR- awesome movies!)
Stranger:I'm watching the fellowship as we speak.
Stranger:But i'll take a book over a film any day.
You:I agree. You get so much more perspective into the character's point of view.
Stranger:Exactly, plus you get to experience the story as the author wants you to.
Stranger:You get to use your imagination, but get nudged into the right line of thought.
You:Yes, although I sometimes dislike/disagree with certain author's perspective.
You:Like on religion. Especially on religion.
Stranger:I don't really read much about religion in modern times.
You:I have to just filter that stuff out when I notice references.
Stranger:In fact, I find it hard to read books set in a modern era anyway.
Stranger:If i'm reading I want to imagine everything for myself.
You:Yes, and to be fair to others, let them imagine the stories for themselves too.
You:No matter what media they were exposed to.
Stranger:To me, in a book, it's all about an escape from reality.
Stranger:If i'm reading, I want to read about somewhere that doesn't exist where I can think anything looks like what I imagine it to.
Stranger:Which is why I barely read anything set in modern times.
Stranger:Unless it's really good.
Stranger:Or anything by Wilde.
Stranger:That's the one.
You:It's funny that you mention his name after Holmes', but ACD wrote about him and his sexual 'abnormalities.'
You:Not in a book, but in a letter, I think.
You:Doyle didn't approve of homosexuality.
You:Kinda ironic considering how many people (myself included) see a definite homoromantic undertone in the dynamic between Holmes and Watson.
Stranger:I just love Wilde's wit and different ways of viewing life and it's sort of..meaning.
Stranger:And yeah, I get the Holmes and Watson thing.
Stranger:Then saying that, Holmes has a love interest.
Stranger:So it's all a bit of a cafuffle.
You:Adler? Naw, she was mentioned in one book before getting married to someone else.
Stranger:I'm sure she was in a few of the short stories.
You:Possibly a short term interest, but I don't think he would obsess over her for very long.
Stranger:I don't think he could obsess over anything for long in the books.
You:I've heard otherwise, but I'll check up on that.
You:'Cept Watson (but as I say that I know it's because he and Holmes live together).
You:Which also explains why I prefer the modern interpretations.
You:I know Johnlock isn't canon in the canon (if that makes any sense), but it can be canon in other adaptations.
You:So I've still got hope!
Stranger:I'd hate living with Holmes, you wouldn't be able to get away with anything.
Stranger:I don't know a huge amount about Holmes to be honest. I did an essay on it about 2 years ago. xD This is jogging my memory quite a bit.
You:I'd take it in stride. "I see from the smell of your fingers and the way you are awkwardly hiding a pair of dirty underwear in your pocket that you have just masturbated." "Yup, and that porno I just watched was kinda horrible. They were in a parking lot of all places! The chick was hot though."
You:I like to wonder what his reaction would be. He'd probably give up scrutinizing me after a while.
Stranger:I do not remember this. ):
Stranger:I mainly focused on Holmes's behaviour and how it may have been seen as mad.
Stranger:It wasn't of course, but I needed a comparison.
You:Remember which part?
Stranger:God knows. I assumed you were quoting it.
Stranger:I just got home from the pub and have engaged in an unusually intellectual conversation.
Stranger:THis is not the norm for me.
You:No, I was making up a scene.
You:I thought you were a douch at first, but then I gave you a try and you turned out alright.
Stranger:I seem to get that a lot. ;o
You:Maybe I should do that more often...nah! I already know my classmates are idiots!
You:I wonder if OP has disconnected.
Stranger:If they haven't, they're probably confused.
You:Request role play, get intense fandom discussion. Right.
Stranger:I haven't met many people on here who can follow a proper conversation.
Stranger:That just reminded me, I hate to think what they'll have been doing.
(Everything else was just useless blab so I cut it out)
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